Comments on: Is it autism? Asperger’s? How to tell the difference http://aspiefamily.org/dad/is-it-autism-aspergers-how-to-tell-the-difference/ All three of us have been identified with High Functioning Autism/Asperger's. Our son is 7. This is about us. Wed, 19 Nov 2008 03:56:00 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.6.3 By: David N. Andrews MEd (12-2006) http://aspiefamily.org/dad/is-it-autism-aspergers-how-to-tell-the-difference/#comment-791 David N. Andrews MEd (12-2006) Fri, 10 Nov 2006 04:24:44 +0000 http://aspiefamily.org/dad/2006/11/08/is-it-autism-aspergers-how-to-tell-the-difference/#comment-791 Oh, and this... http://cat.inist.fr/?aModele=afficheN&cpsidt=2829734 "This paper examines the four cases Asperger originally presented in his seminal paper (1991/1994), using DSM-IV criteria to determine whether a diagnosis of Autistic or Asperger Disorder is most appropriate. We found that all four cases met DSM-IV criteria for Autistic Disorder, rather than Asperger Disorder. This suggests that the syndrome Asperger originally described may not be captured by present diagnostic criteria." Hmm... Indeed... DSM sucks.... Oh, and this…

http://cat.inist.fr/?aModele=afficheN&cpsidt=2829734

“This paper examines the four cases Asperger originally presented in his seminal paper (1991/1994), using DSM-IV criteria to determine whether a diagnosis of Autistic or Asperger Disorder is most appropriate. We found that all four cases met DSM-IV criteria for Autistic Disorder, rather than Asperger Disorder. This suggests that the syndrome Asperger originally described may not be captured by present diagnostic criteria.”

Hmm…

Indeed…

DSM sucks….

]]> By: Joseph http://aspiefamily.org/dad/is-it-autism-aspergers-how-to-tell-the-difference/#comment-790 Joseph Thu, 09 Nov 2006 15:45:16 +0000 http://aspiefamily.org/dad/2006/11/08/is-it-autism-aspergers-how-to-tell-the-difference/#comment-790 That's why Gillberg's criteria gives a prevalence of Asperger's of about 36 in 10,000, whereas the DSM-IV criteria gives something like 5 to 10 in 10,000 -- and some would argue that's simply due to diagnostic error. The real prevalence of DSM-IV Asperger's should be about 0 in 10,000 apparently. That’s why Gillberg’s criteria gives a prevalence of Asperger’s of about 36 in 10,000, whereas the DSM-IV criteria gives something like 5 to 10 in 10,000 — and some would argue that’s simply due to diagnostic error. The real prevalence of DSM-IV Asperger’s should be about 0 in 10,000 apparently.

]]> By: David N. Andrews MEd (12-2006) http://aspiefamily.org/dad/is-it-autism-aspergers-how-to-tell-the-difference/#comment-789 David N. Andrews MEd (12-2006) Wed, 08 Nov 2006 22:50:26 +0000 http://aspiefamily.org/dad/2006/11/08/is-it-autism-aspergers-how-to-tell-the-difference/#comment-789 I'm not sure if it makes it impossible to diagnose, per se, but it doesn't give any clues as to how the criteria should be interpreted in order to make any meaningful distinction. I never use DSM IV or ICD 10 criteria for this reason: neither was actually operationalised from Asperger's reports. The Gillberg & Gillberg set were, and the ASDI which is born out of them is the main instrument I use in psycho-educational diagnosis. However, Gillberg himself points out in his 2002 text ('A Guide To Asperger Syndrome, CUP) that the interview will in fact pick up autism generally, as opposed to 'just' Asperger syndrome. I’m not sure if it makes it impossible to diagnose, per se, but it doesn’t give any clues as to how the criteria should be interpreted in order to make any meaningful distinction.

I never use DSM IV or ICD 10 criteria for this reason: neither was actually operationalised from Asperger’s reports. The Gillberg & Gillberg set were, and the ASDI which is born out of them is the main instrument I use in psycho-educational diagnosis.

However, Gillberg himself points out in his 2002 text (’A Guide To Asperger Syndrome, CUP) that the interview will in fact pick up autism generally, as opposed to ‘just’ Asperger syndrome.

]]> By: Joseph http://aspiefamily.org/dad/is-it-autism-aspergers-how-to-tell-the-difference/#comment-788 Joseph Wed, 08 Nov 2006 22:30:55 +0000 http://aspiefamily.org/dad/2006/11/08/is-it-autism-aspergers-how-to-tell-the-difference/#comment-788 The DSM-IV apparently makes a diagnosis of Asperger's impossible. See <a href="http://www.springerlink.com/content/l15514241h4p3602/" rel="nofollow">here</a>. So there really is no Asperger's, just autism. To be clear, we're autistic, not Aspies :) The DSM-IV apparently makes a diagnosis of Asperger’s impossible. See here. So there really is no Asperger’s, just autism. To be clear, we’re autistic, not Aspies :)

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